The only way that you’re both going to get clean together is if the both of you have the same burning desire to quit heroin, stay clean, and turn your lives around. Because it’s not just about quitting heroin, it’s about changing your lives as well. The only way that you’re both going to make it out of this trap together is if the both of you are on board 100% and are willing to do whatever it takes to quit this drug once and for all. Otherwise, one will fail while the other succeeds, or both will fail as well. So if you’re both going to make it together, then the both of you have to want this just as much as the other.

However, many experts will tell you that the only way for a couple to get clean and stay clean for good is to separate themselves and get clean separately. And unfortunately, some times, this may be true. But sometimes, when the getting clean time is over, then the same is true for the relationship as well, as many relationships tend to fall apart when one gets clean and the other does not.

It is very possible for a couple to quit heroin and stay clean together, but it’s going to take more than just you by yourself to make it happen. However, there are some things that you can do to increase your chances of quitting this drug and staying clean for good, together. For example, if you’re the woman in the relationship then the best thing to do is to get your boyfriend or husband on board 100% and then ask him to take charge for the both of you.

Why? Because in a relationship, it’s always the mans’ responsibility to make sure his girl and he himself are on the right path at all times. This is not a sexist statement. It's a fact. And you can go ask any marriage counselor who understands any principles at all and they will tell you the same thing: It has always been the mans’ responsibility to keep the woman and the whole family on the right path, living a clean, decent and honest life. And he can still do so, if he (you) hurries up and gets his house in order before the relationship, marriage or whole family falls apart. Because that’s what heroin does - it ruins lives and tears families apart. But it doesn’t have to happen to you.

Therefore, if you’re the man in the relationship then you’re going to have to take charge for the both of you to increase your chances for quitting this drug and turning your lives around. However, if your girl or your wife is not on board 100% then you can’t necessarily force her to quit. You can however do everything you can to convince her to quit and to get her on the same page as you so that the both of you can quit this drug and live a long, happy and healthy life together. But if she just can’t get it together, or can’t get herself to quit, or simply doesn’t want to quit as much as you do, then you’re going to have to do this without her. You’re going to have to set the example and lead the way. Otherwise, nothing will change.

Likewise, if you’re the girl reading this, then you’re going to have to do your best to get your man on board 100% in order for the both of you to quit this thing together and live the rest of your lives in peace; otherwise, you’re going to have to do this yourself - with or without him. Either way, whoever you are, no matter how things go, you’re going to have to quit this drug with or without him, or with or without her, if there’s going to be any change at all. One of you has to take the first step or else nothing will change.

It would be great if the both of you can make it out of this trap alive and well, many couples do, and you can too. It would be wonderful if the both of you can quit this drug and stay clean for good. But no matter what, if the both of you can’t make it together then one of you has to come out of this trap alive or else the both of you are going to remain addicted to heroin. But it would be best for the both of you to get clean and stay clean for good in order to have a clean, happy and sober life, together. It won’t be easy, but it can be done. You can do this. You can both do this together.

"jorge! thanks for the great advice! we are now on day 3. we ended up going with the suboxone route, but I don't think I need to take them anymore! ... so far so good! thank you again. you did a great thing by creating this website!..." AF (female)

​​"I wrote several months ago about me and my husband quitting heroin. Well I just wanted to say we have been clean 3 months and I wanted to say thank you for inspiring me. It wouldn't have happened without your website and for my husband stepping up and taking charge for us to quit. Thank you so much" JS (female)

"Jorge, My husband and i are on day 6 of no heroin. We picked a day to quit and went cold turkey. I am so proud of us. Your website really helped me this past week. i am feeling a lot better...." SW (female)

"Hi, My bout was shortlived with "H" luckily. I tried my first hoot about 2 months ago and I quickly became a 400 plus dollar a day user. I followed your cold turkey tips to a T and am now on day 6 and doing really well! Anyone who says they can't are wrong. I just did it w my boyfriend we suffered and succeeded together and I just wanted to say thank you!" S&C (female)

"Hi jorge. We r now 12 days in today! Im exited. I feel like i am living my life again. Yesterday we were able to go to the creek and go swimming and have a good time sober. It was a blast. Thank u again so much! now everything is so great...Thank you soooo much!! *with tears in our eyes! Love!!!." RE (female)

"Hey, thanks :) we are doing great! Heroin free for about 2 months now!! We are going to church and getting very involved with things like that. We got on suboxone... and that has been amazing for us! We are very happy and in a very good place. Thank you for your help and your website it was what gave us hope to be able to get off that junk. My husband also has a job interview coming up for a really good job...! Thank you for your concern it is greatly appreciated and means alot!..." NL (female)

And if they can do it, then you can do it too! And in order for you to make it happen then you’re both going to have to give it your best shot no matter how things turn out. Therefore, plan wisely and then execute your plan with full force.
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Make a list of all the pros for quitting and all the cons for using. Calculate all the money that you’re both spending on heroin daily and then make a list of all the good things that you can be doing with all that money. Calculate the loss of your drug addiction, and then focus on the rewards for quitting.

If you need more reasons on why to quit and how to get yourselves to quit then please read my article, “How to Get Yourself to Quit Heroin”, and "More Reasons to Quit Heroin and Turn Your Life Around" and then do it - give it your best shot!
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​But just because one person may be able to do it with OTC meds, doesn’t mean that the other person can. Although some of you may have no choice but to go cold with the help of OTC meds. However, if one sees the other sick in withdrawal then that can cause the other person to give in and go out and buy dope in order to bring relief to the sicker one and in the process relieve themselves as well. That’s why you’ll both have to stay strong and be on board 100% if you’re both going to do this cold turkey .with OTC meds But if you really want it, then you can do it. Furthermore, the people who followed the instructions on the quitting heroin cold turkey with OTC meds article to the letter said that it was the easiest kick they ever did.

And if you’re going to go cold then read my article “How to Quit Heroin Cold Turkey with the Help of OTC Meds” followed by “How to Survive the first 7 days”. Get whatever OTC meds you can get, set a date to quit, and then do it. Give it your best shot! You can do it. You can both do this!
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If quitting heroin cold turkey is out of the question for the both of you, then you may want to consider quitting heroin warm turkey with the help of lesser evil pharmaceutical drugs such as Clonodine, Valiums, Xanax, Tramadol or Vicodins, or whatever pain and anxiety medication you’re able to get.

Pharmaceutical drugs such as Valiums and Xanax are great for relieving anxiety and restlessness while meds such as Tramadol and Vicodin are good for relieving pain. And these meds are to be taken as needed and not to get high and comfortable, but to help you get through the first 4 to 5 days of detox. And such medications can make it much easier for the both of you to quit heroin with much less discomfort than if you were to do it cold turkey. Yet getting such meds may not be that simple or even feasible for some.

If you already have a doctor who can prescribe these medications then getting 1 or 2 of them can help greatly. And if you have the funds to do so then you can find a doctor who can prescribe such meds for you. But if not, then you may want to start asking your friends or start asking around to see if anyone has or can get such meds off the street. And if you can get any pain and/or anxiety meds, then get them, set a quitting date and then do it. Quit this drug and turn your lives around.

For more information on quitting heroin warm turkey read my article, “How to Quit Heroin Warm Turkey with Meds”.
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Most addicts don't have insurance or money to pay for a Suboxone doctor. But if you’re able to find heroin then there’s a good chance that you can find Suboxone on the streets as well. All you have to do is start asking around for Suboxone. Ask your dealer, your friends or anyone who uses drugs if they know someone or anyone who’s selling Suboxone or who would be willing to sell or give some of theirs to you.

All you need is 3 to 4 suboxone film strips for the both of you to make it out of this trap alive and well. And there are other ways to obtain Suboxone as well, such as going to a state funded suboxone clinic, or a methadone clinic which dispenses suboxone. All of this is explained in detail along with taper and use plans on my article “Quitting Heroin with the Help of Suboxone”.

You’ll have to go through a withdrawal period first, (go without heroin for 24 hours more or less. The longer you wait the better off you'll be. The heroin must be cleaned out from the receptors in the brain) before taking that first suboxone tablet or film strip; otherwise, you can go into precipitated withdrawals if you take it too soon. But if you can both manage to hang in there long enough to get that first sub in you effectively then you’re almost home free for good. And from there it’s just a matter of staying away from heroin and tapering down from the subs until you’re off the subs for good. And if you’re going to do it this way then get the subs, set a quitting date for the both of you and then do it.

For more information on quitting heroin with suboxone please read my article “Quitting Heroin with the Help of Suboxone”.
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​Kratom (botanical name Mitragyna Speciosa) consists of over 25 alkaloids (chemical compounds), one of which is called Mitragynine. Mitragynine is an opioid agonist, which means that it has an attraction towards the opioid receptors in the brain. When in withdrawal, Mitragynine binds to these receptors and is able to reduce heroin and opiate withdrawal symptoms. 

Kratom is not an opioid. It is not a drug. It is a natural leaf which is sold in the US, UK, Canada, and in other countries for many different purposes, including heroin and opiate withdrawal. It is sold in the form of leaves, crushed leaves and in fine herbal powder as well. (Fine Kratom powder is preferred). Once a person consumes kratom (by mixing it with juice and drinking it, or drinking it as a tea), heroin withdrawals are reduced greatly within 20 to 30 minutes.

A person only needs to take kratom 4 times per day for the first 3 days and then begin to reduce their intake of Kratom for Day 4, 5 and 6. After that, that’s it. You’re done. You’ve just quit heroin with an all natural plant. And then from there it’s just a matter of time and recovery and rebuilding your health.

For more information on Kratom, how to quit heroin with kratom, how to take it and where to buy kratom, please read my article, “How to Quit Heroin with the Help of Kratom”.
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​If you want to get it over with as quickly as possible without having to worry about getting on and getting off of meds such as suboxone or methadone or anything else then you may want to consider quitting heroin in a detox center. When quitting heroin in detox you’ll be quitting heroin almost cold turkey but with the help of Clonidine and other medications and sometimes, suboxone or subutex as well.

If you can’t quit and stay clean any other way then you may want to consider quitting heroin in a drug rehabilitation center where you’ll be far from the dope spots and anyone who sells or uses drugs. You may have to both separate yourselves for some time until you’re both clean and stable before resuming your relationship but it will all be worth while in the end. And if this is an option for you, then the both of you may want to quit heroin in a drug rehabilitation center.

For more detailed information on quitting heroin in a rehab center, please read “How to Quit Heroin in a Drug Rehab Center”.
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​​​And if you’re low on funds or have no money at all then don’t let that stop you...

To find a free (state funded) or low cost drug treatment program, suboxone clinic, methadone clinic, (or methadone clinic that offers suboxone), detox or rehab center, contact your national drug services information and referral center and ask them for help in finding a clinic, detox or rehab center near you.

Call 1-800-662-4357 SAMHSA, the U.S. Substance Abuse Administration office and ask them to recommend a free (state funded) to low cost, suboxone clinic, methadone clinic, detox or rehab center in your city, state or out of state as well. Get the contact details for any or all of these places and then start calling them to ask for costs, details and procedures. (You may qualify for free (state or government funded) assistance as well.) If you have insurance, then check with your insurance provider for recommended treatment centers and possible out of state treatment centers as well.

Canada: If you’re living in Canada, click here for a list of drug treatment referral services for your province in Canada. Call them and ask them for a recommendation for a free to low cost, suboxone clinic, methadone clinic, detox or rehab center in your province or out of your province as well. If you have insurance then check with your insurance provider to see what options are available to you.​

United Kingdom: If you’re living in the United Kingdom, click here for a list of drug treatment referral services for your region or nation in the UK. Call them and ask them for a recommendation for a free to low cost, suboxone (subutex) clinic, methadone clinic, detox or rehab center in your region or outside your region as well.

Ireland: If you’re living in Ireland, click here for a list of drug treatment referral services for your county or province in Ireland. Call them and ask them for a recommendation for a free to low cost, suboxone (subutex) clinic, methadone clinic, detox or rehab center in your county or province or outside your province as well.

India: If you’re living in India, click here for a list of drug treatment de-addiction services for your city in India. There are many free and low cost, inpatient and out patient, de-addiction treatment centres in India.

Australia: If you’re living in Australia, click here for a list of drug treatment referral services for your state or territory in Australia. Call them and ask them for a recommendation for a free to low cost, suboxone or methadone clinic, detox or drug rehab center in your state or territory or even outside your territory as well.

New Zealand: If you’re living in New Zealand, click here for a list of drug treatment referral services for your town, city or district in New Zealand. Call them and ask them for a recommendation for a free to low cost, suboxone clinic, methadone clinic, detox or rehab center in your district or out of your district as well.

Most countries offer free (state funded) to low cost, suboxone treatment, methadone treatment, detox or rehab programs for their residents. And one or the both of you may qualify for free, (government funded) assistance as well. If you have insurance, then check with your insurance provider for recommended treatment programs and possible out of area treatment programs as well.

Call the programs, get complete details, costs and procedures and then make your final decision on how you're going to quit and where you're going to go and then do it.
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However, that’s easier said than done, and it may not work as planned. But it’s best to give it your best shot first before considering going your separate ways in order to get clean.

​If your parents are available, then you may want to ask your parents or your partners’ parents to take care of the kids while the both of you get clean, cold turkey, warm turkey or with suboxone as well. This may however, require coming clean to them but coming clean to them may also help the both of you to stay clean as well.

If you’re going to do it cold turkey then you’ll at least need a few days for detox. If you’re going to do it warm turkey then you may still need a couple of days to get halfway stable. And if you’re going to do it with subs then you may still need to go through one day of withdrawals before taking that first suboxone tablet or film strip. But after that first suboxone you’ll be fine and normal as well.

If you have no one to take care of your kids and if you’re going to go to detox or a drug rehabilitation center then one person can get clean while the other takes care of the kid(s). And upon your return, your partner can go to detox right away. It’s hard to quit when there’s children involved but either way, it can be done. It has to be done. One way or another you both have to quit this drug in order to give the kids your best.

So start planning and start making preparations. Talk it over with your man or talk about it with your woman. Get him or her on board 100%. Figure out and decide on what’s the best way for the both of you to quit, set a quitting date, today, tomorrow or within the next few days, and then do it. But with or without kids, the sooner you quit this drug then the better off you’ll be and the sooner you’ll be able to get your lives back as well.

Even if you’re both working, you can still work it out to where you detox with meds, OTC’s, or get on suboxone and then go back to work within a couple of days. And if you really want this, then you can do it. You can both do this. Do whatever it takes to quit this drug and turn your lives around.

You may want to try to quit together first but be ready and willing to take other measures as well. I’m all for keeping the relationship together, but for some of you, you may also have to realize that your boyfriend or girlfriend may not be the best thing for you and in fact may be bad for you as well. Sometimes, some women just don’t get that the men they’re with are bad for them, but they stay with them anyway. And some times when it comes to heroin this is often the case.

For example: Sometimes, when a couple is using heroin together and the man goes to jail or prison, the women clean up their lives, they get jobs, their children go to school and even church and their lives become much better than what it was before. They quit heroin and turned their lives around. But then just when they’re finally reaching true stability in their lives, the boyfriend gets released from prison, comes home and then the whole cycle starts all over again bringing them both back down to where they started. And this type of thing happens all the time.​

If your partner’s not good for you then you might have to let them go, or at least separate yourselves for the time being until the both of you can get clean and stay clean for good, if that’s what you want to do. But it’s extremely difficult and most times impossible for one to remain clean while the other keeps on using.

It may work for some time, days,weeks, and even,months at the most, but sooner or later things can change. You’re either going to leave or you’re going to throw in the towel and give in. And if the both of you are down then nothing will change. 

There are many possible outcomes for what may or will happen next. And what you do now will have a great effect upon how your own situation turns out. When couples try to quit heroin together, here's what usually happens: Either;

A. The girl is not able to quit because the guy keeps giving in and keeps her down.

B. Neither of you are able to quit because one or the other keeps giving in and continues to keep the other one down.

C. The girl quits and the guy keeps on using. But the girl can’t stay around for too long or else he'll bring her down too, (unintentionally of course); but just knowing that the guy still gets dope becomes too much temptation for the girl to handle so eventually, she’ll have to leave.
 
D. The girl leaves and quits on her own, or with the help of family and friends. (And if the guy keeps using then the relationship usually falls apart).

E. The guy quits and cant seem to get the girl on board and eventually, the relationship falls apart.

F. Both the guy and the girl continue to use heroin and become full fledged junkies, or in other words, another statistic.

G. The man takes charge for the both of them (with full commitment from the woman) and they both quit and stay clean for good, and end up having a much better life and a much better relationship than what they had before. And yes; this is very much possible.

But only you can decide what the outcome will be for you.

I’ve seen it all.

I’ve seen the both of them continue to use and live their lives for heroin.

I’ve seen the girl have to leave because the guy just couldn’t get it together.

I’ve seen the guy have to leave because the girl just couldn’t get it together.

I’ve even seen the girl leave, get clean and encourage the guy from afar, and in the end, they both made it out of that trap alive and well. And even this would be a wonderful outcome.

But I’ve also seen both the guy and the girl get clean together and stay clean for good, which would be the best possible outcome and the best case scenario. And if the both of you are ready to quit this drug once and for all, then there’s no reason why it cant happen for you.

But only you can determine what happens next. And the both of you have to really want this in order for the both of you to succeed. And if you’re married with children then do everything you can to quit this drug and keep the family together; for the sake of the kids, and for your sakes as well. Even if you have to take drastic measures to stay clean such as relocating to another city, another state, or even another country then do it. Do whatever it takes to quit this drug and turn your lives around.

The sooner you get this drug out of the picture then the sooner you can get your lives back. And if you whip this thing now, then things can begin to change, and all for the better as well. Therefore, prepare yourselves and get ready for battle. Because with or without meds, there will be a battle. But if you really want it, then you can do it. Also, in the mean time, if you haven’t started quitting already then you may want to consider the following:

​Movies can have a positive effect upon us. And they can motivate us to change as well. Therefore, if at all possible, you may want to go out to your nearest BlockBuster video store or your local video rental store and rent the 2006 movie called “Candy” with Heath Ledger and Abbie Cornish.

Candy is a very realistic “wake up” movie about a couple who uses heroin together and then goes through the struggles of quitting heroin together as well. It's very realistic, and if you haven't seen it already then you might want to consider renting it and watching it together. ​It might change everything and can motivate the both of you to quit this drug once and for all - together.
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​If you’re both going to quit with methadone then do it. Going to the methadone clinic, (or getting it prescribed from a doctor), along with some additional counseling as well, is a quick and easy solution to break the heroin cycle and stay clean for good. And if you do go to a clinic, then I would recommend that you both beg and plead with the counselor to help you get on and get off the methadone as soon as possible. Let them know that you’ll cooperate, go to counseling sessions, provide clean urine samples at all times and do whatever it takes to get off this drug and all opiates for good.

If you're going to quit heroin with the help of Kratom then do it. Get the best quality kratom that you can find. Stop using heroin and then start taking the kratom every 4 hours, or as needed for the first few days. Then by day 4 you can begin to reduce your intake of kratom and be done with it by Day 5, or Day 6.

If you’re both going to quit heroin in a detox or rehab center then do it. Yet this option will require a separation, at least for the time being. And as long as you both get clean and stay clean as well then the relationship can resume with little to no problems at all. But you’ll both have to stay strong and stay clean for good in order to maintain your sobriety and have a long, happy and healthy relationship together.

Yes. You can both do this together. You can both quit heroin together. And you may want to try your best to do it together first. But if it doesn’t work out then be prepared and be willing to separate yourselves, at least for a time, until you can both get clean and stay clean for good. No matter what the outcome may be, the most important thing is to quit this drug and turn your lives around. And believe it or not, you can do this. You can both really do this. If you really want it, then you can do it. All you have to do now is just do it. Make a plan and then do it! Put your whole heart into this and then do it! Give it your best shot and then hope for the best. And don’t give up until you whip this drug, once and for all. Good luck. And may the good force be with you.

Sincerely,
Jorge (George) Fernandez
Over 20 Years Clean from Heroin
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